I first became a Cheri Huber devotee when I learned about the book There is Nothing Wrong With You. When Cheri agreed to an interview, I did the happy dance in my office. I'm sharing a slice of our interview with you. The entire interview is included in The Courageous Living Program.

In this interview with Brene Brown, we talk about ordinary courage that builds the foundation for an extraordinary life.

Safety is a delusion. There is no "safety." At any given moment--whether you take action in the name of your dreams, or not--things can go wrong. Spending a lot of time creating safety is not a road paved with guarantees. In fact, it just wastes time.

So what's the difference between sitting with your stuff as a presence practice, and wallowing? The difference is in the Story. Stories are those repeated, habitual assumptions that we make about life, to the point where those Stories might go unquestioned.